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To address the searching issue, at least, it looks like that can be edited too (if I understand http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault correctly, and unless that is different software than what we use).
 
To address the searching issue, at least, it looks like that can be edited too (if I understand http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesToBeSearchedDefault correctly, and unless that is different software than what we use).
  
For the rest of it: as I think I made clear before, even if the new namespace were not created, I would want the page to exist, but it is obvious that some would have concerns.  It seems to me that articles are a discussion, but they are a different kind of discussion, or perhaps a different level, when defined in the mind of those who use the site (most of whom get their experience on Wikis from Wikipedia).  Instead of fighting these preconceptions tooth and nail, which both limits participation and leads some users to question TWF's content, the Forum: namespace offers an opportunity to talk about allegations and argue about evidence.  It makes a good place for somebody to propose a Digital Demarchy for Student Senate, for example - and get actual feedback on the idea, on the same website.  It can be quite closely integrated with the main namespace: somebody puts up [[Digital Demarchy]] detailing the idea, and then puts up [[Forum: Digital Demarchy]] to solicit comments and answer questions.  This sort of discussion, which is necessary and which has little stable forum at Knox presently, can be carried out easily and comfortably on TWF, and in a way that doesn't interfere with the actual description of the idea on the main namespace page.  Moving back to the Campus Safety thing, allegations which have traction, as well as various community members' positions on them, can without much difficulty be copied to the regular article if they appear to be credible, along with a summary of the positions taken and a link to the forum page - this also, as a secondary thing, limits the "weasel-word" quality of "some say, but others contend" statements, because we can show who "some" and "other" are and precisely what they said.
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For the rest of it: as I think I made clear before, even if the new namespace were not created, I would want the page to exist, but it is obvious that some would have concerns.  It seems to me that articles are a discussion, but they are a different kind of discussion, or perhaps a different level, when defined in the mind of those who use the site (most of whom get their experience on Wikis from Wikipedia).  Instead of fighting these preconceptions tooth and nail, which both limits participation and leads some users to question TWF's content, the Forum: namespace offers an opportunity to talk about allegations and argue about evidence.  It makes a good place for somebody to propose a Digital Demarchy for Student Senate, for example - and get actual feedback on the idea, on the same website.  It can be quite closely integrated with the main namespace: somebody puts up [[Digital Demarchy]] detailing the idea, and then puts up [[Forum: Digital Demarchy]] to solicit comments and answer questions.  This discussion, which is necessary and which has little stable forum at Knox presently, can be carried out easily and comfortably on TWF, and in a way that doesn't interfere with the actual description of the idea on the main namespace page.  Moving back to the Campus Safety thing, allegations which have traction, as well as various community members' positions on them, can without much difficulty be copied to the regular article if they appear to be credible, along with a summary of the positions taken and a link to the forum page - this also, as a secondary thing, limits the "weasel-word" quality of "some say, but others contend" statements, because we can show who "some" and "other" are and precisely what they said.
  
 
Whatever happens, I agree that it's time to rethink the Code of Ethics. [[User:Camozzi|Camozzi]] 17:31, 23 June 2008 (CDT)
 
Whatever happens, I agree that it's time to rethink the Code of Ethics. [[User:Camozzi|Camozzi]] 17:31, 23 June 2008 (CDT)

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