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** Because the officer did not search the students their 4th amendment rights were not violated. The officer was offering the students an easy way out. If they had submitted to the search, it is likely they would have been referred to the Office of Student Development. When the police searched the students bags and found signs that had been taken down from restrooms in the buildings. The students were taken to jail for stealing college property. They were there less than an hour. | ** Because the officer did not search the students their 4th amendment rights were not violated. The officer was offering the students an easy way out. If they had submitted to the search, it is likely they would have been referred to the Office of Student Development. When the police searched the students bags and found signs that had been taken down from restrooms in the buildings. The students were taken to jail for stealing college property. They were there less than an hour. | ||
** The previous comment is inane. My 4th amendment rights were violated--not by campus safety, but by the Galesburg police, as stated in the account above. The campus safety officer merely demanded an illegal search and lied about its being compulsory. This seems to me like misconduct; if it isn't, it should be. Further, if the campus safety officer had wanted to offer an "easy way out" demanding to search my property seems a strange way to do it. | ** The previous comment is inane. My 4th amendment rights were violated--not by campus safety, but by the Galesburg police, as stated in the account above. The campus safety officer merely demanded an illegal search and lied about its being compulsory. This seems to me like misconduct; if it isn't, it should be. Further, if the campus safety officer had wanted to offer an "easy way out" demanding to search my property seems a strange way to do it. | ||
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| + | The fact is that you broke the law by vandalizing college property and then tried to cover up the crime. Until you get your law degree, stop crying about your alleged "rights". | ||
===Friday, May 16 (part 2)=== | ===Friday, May 16 (part 2)=== | ||
Late, after [[Girl Talk]], Campus Safety called the police on an intoxicated student who was on campus, violating the [[Good Samaritan policy]]. | Late, after [[Girl Talk]], Campus Safety called the police on an intoxicated student who was on campus, violating the [[Good Samaritan policy]]. | ||
** The Good Samaritan policy only protects students from college rules, not federal, state, or local laws. | ** The Good Samaritan policy only protects students from college rules, not federal, state, or local laws. | ||
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| + | There is no such thing as a "Good Samaritan Policy" as evidenced by your dead link to same. Illinois' good samaritan law protects people who render first aid from being sued. It has nothing to do with criminal behavior such as underage drinking or public intoxication. Again...get your law degree and then we can talk. | ||
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** A Campus Safety Officer noticed money hanging out of an unattended purse. When he checked the property for an id, drug paraphernalia was found. Possession of drug paraphernalia is against college and state laws. | ** A Campus Safety Officer noticed money hanging out of an unattended purse. When he checked the property for an id, drug paraphernalia was found. Possession of drug paraphernalia is against college and state laws. | ||
**Once again, can you substantiate your claim that there was drug paraphernalia in the bag? Even if there was drug paraphernalia, its presence in the bag does not justify the search of the bag in that it was not apparent--just the money (which, last time I checked, is legal under state and college laws... | **Once again, can you substantiate your claim that there was drug paraphernalia in the bag? Even if there was drug paraphernalia, its presence in the bag does not justify the search of the bag in that it was not apparent--just the money (which, last time I checked, is legal under state and college laws... | ||
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| + | I was to one who found the drug pipe in the purse. I searched it to find the owner of the money and to ensure that there was nothing dangerous to my safety. Once again, you have no understanding of the law... | ||
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** This is hearsay. No student has ever been pepper sprayed. It is true that some Campus Safety Officers carry pepper spray for protection. | ** This is hearsay. No student has ever been pepper sprayed. It is true that some Campus Safety Officers carry pepper spray for protection. | ||
** Has the author personally consulted all of the students at Knox college? Otherwise, the statement that "no student has ever been pepper sprayed" is worse than hearsay--it's...just say. | ** Has the author personally consulted all of the students at Knox college? Otherwise, the statement that "no student has ever been pepper sprayed" is worse than hearsay--it's...just say. | ||
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| + | In recent memory, going back at least five years, no students have been pepper sprayed by a campus safety officer. Quit your whining about stupid stuff. | ||
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Like the Campus Safety Log, but with a different spin.
Contents
Instances of Alleged Misconduct
Currently, the allegation comes first, followed by a chance for rebuttal or any other kind of argument against the allegation and the evidence used to support it. This page is currently under heavy discussion, so visit the Discussion page and join in.
Friday, May 16 (part 1)
Just after midnight, a campus safety officer detained two students walking in the basement of SMC and accused them of removing signs from bathroom doors and demanded to search one of their bags. When the students refused the search on the basis of their 4th amendment rights, the officer lied to them, saying that those rights did not apply on private property, and called the police. the police officer who searched AND violated the student's 4th amendment rights told the campus safety officer, "we cannot legally search them", however proceeded to searching both students, without a warrant and without consent.
- Because the officer did not search the students their 4th amendment rights were not violated. The officer was offering the students an easy way out. If they had submitted to the search, it is likely they would have been referred to the Office of Student Development. When the police searched the students bags and found signs that had been taken down from restrooms in the buildings. The students were taken to jail for stealing college property. They were there less than an hour.
- The previous comment is inane. My 4th amendment rights were violated--not by campus safety, but by the Galesburg police, as stated in the account above. The campus safety officer merely demanded an illegal search and lied about its being compulsory. This seems to me like misconduct; if it isn't, it should be. Further, if the campus safety officer had wanted to offer an "easy way out" demanding to search my property seems a strange way to do it.
The fact is that you broke the law by vandalizing college property and then tried to cover up the crime. Until you get your law degree, stop crying about your alleged "rights".
Friday, May 16 (part 2)
Late, after Girl Talk, Campus Safety called the police on an intoxicated student who was on campus, violating the Good Samaritan policy.
- The Good Samaritan policy only protects students from college rules, not federal, state, or local laws.
There is no such thing as a "Good Samaritan Policy" as evidenced by your dead link to same. Illinois' good samaritan law protects people who render first aid from being sued. It has nothing to do with criminal behavior such as underage drinking or public intoxication. Again...get your law degree and then we can talk.
Sunday, May 18
In the early morning, a student left belongings in Founders, while computers were restarting, and Campus Safety took the liberty of searching the students personal belongings, without the student present, or consent from that student.
- A Campus Safety Officer noticed money hanging out of an unattended purse. When he checked the property for an id, drug paraphernalia was found. Possession of drug paraphernalia is against college and state laws.
- Once again, can you substantiate your claim that there was drug paraphernalia in the bag? Even if there was drug paraphernalia, its presence in the bag does not justify the search of the bag in that it was not apparent--just the money (which, last time I checked, is legal under state and college laws...
I was to one who found the drug pipe in the purse. I searched it to find the owner of the money and to ensure that there was nothing dangerous to my safety. Once again, you have no understanding of the law...
Wednesday, May 21
Campus security was seen and over heard referencing the use of pepper spray on a student during the afternoon.
- This is hearsay. No student has ever been pepper sprayed. It is true that some Campus Safety Officers carry pepper spray for protection.
- Has the author personally consulted all of the students at Knox college? Otherwise, the statement that "no student has ever been pepper sprayed" is worse than hearsay--it's...just say.
In recent memory, going back at least five years, no students have been pepper sprayed by a campus safety officer. Quit your whining about stupid stuff.
